[Gaviotas] Susan schooling in green technologies

Don Karp donkarp at yahoo.com
Wed Sep 16 09:48:55 CDT 2009 

I said that "sustainable" is relative, meaning as compared with something else.
Some technologies are more sustainable than others.
Sustaiability is relevant, of course, but, in my thinking, not infinite.

--- On Fri, 9/11/09, Benjamin & Joyce Morris <benjasx7 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Benjamin & Joyce Morris <benjasx7 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Susan schooling in green technologies
To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 1:58 PM


Good question, Don.  Infinitely sustainable as we define it is related specifically to lifestyles that engage a single planet's resources in such a way that they are not depleted for the following generations.  You are right that the term "sustainable" is relevant.  So much so these days, that it really has no meaning any longer.  When we are collectively saying that things like compact flourescent lightbulbs are "green" and strip clearing of forests are "green" as long as we replant little baby trees, then the term sustainable has been made meaningless.  That's why we took the term "infinitely" sustainable.  All our actions and lifestyle choices will be made for the wellbeing of our grandchildren's and their grandchildren's lives as well as ours.  We will engage our creativity toward restoring our balance with nature that allowed us to evolve to this point.
Blessings, Joyce
 
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From: Don Karp <donkarp at yahoo.com>
To: their technologies philosophy etcDiscussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 11:39:44 AM
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Susan schooling in green technologies

Hi-
 
What do you mean by "infinitely" sustainable lifestyles?
I think that sustainability is relative, a way to compare one system with another.
 
I am exploring your website on language.
 
thanks,
Don

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From: Benjamin & Joyce Morris <benjasx7 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Susan schooling in green technologies
To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 2009, 10:35 AM


Greetings Susan,

Your plans are very interesting to me because they seem to dovetail very well with a project I and my husband are working on.  I am creating a demonstration settlement in Colorado for infinitely sustainable lifestyles (planned for 100-200 families) and my husband is creating a similar settlement for ex-felons.  He currently works in the Federal Prison system and is working on creating a demonstration that he read about in the Ringing Cedars of Russia book series.  If you have read that series and are interested in talking more about our project, I'd love to hear from you.
Blessings,
Joyce
 
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From: Susan Angel <susan.fuel at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 8:08:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Susan schooling in green technologies

yes Catherine, I want to stop waste from going to landfills, use leftover
parts/materials from companies currently making products, then use those
leftover parts/materials to make new marketable products.  To provide work
for ex offenders who cannot find employment. Am thinking I could talk with
local professors at U.C.
Industrial Design Department, I live in Cincinnati.
I have developed a tile installation project using broken tile that normally
hits our local landfill, and am interested in more opportunities similar to
this project that will provide Transitional Jobs. Suggestions?
Thanks
Susan

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Catherine Page Harris <cphunm at unm.edu>wrote:

>
> Susan,
>
> You might want to refine your search some.  There are many programs
> which offer different angles on what you are looking for.
> Sustainability Studies is a minor at the University of New Mexico,
> which crosses disciplines between biology and architecture.  I am
> beginning an Art and Ecology program at UNM which looks from the art
> side at ecological practice.  There are many landscape and architecture
> programs which deal with sustainable technologies.  There is also the
> Permaculture Institute in Santa Fe.  You might decide first where you
> want to interesect your interests with the culture.
>
> Best,
> Catherine
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> >From: Susan Angel <susan.fuel at gmail.com>
> >Subject: [Gaviotas] Classes
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> >Hello, I am looking to take classes on sustainability, new green
> >technoliges, etc., much like what is happening at the Gaviotas. Does
> anyone
> >know of a reputable college in the U.S., or guide me to the best of the
> best
> >on what's available right now?
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> >From: Cathy Mullan <cathymullan at cox.net>
> >Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Classes
> >To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their
> >      technologies,  philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>,
> Susan
> >      Angel <susan.fuel at gmail.com>
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> >Hi Susan,
> >
> >You may want to check out the full immersion semester program at the
> >Ecosa Institute.  It is a wonderful program with a small class - under
> >20. I attended in the Spring of 2003.
> >
> >Any questions? I am happy to try answer.
> >
> >Cathy
> >
> >On Sep 10, 2009, at 9:26 AM, Susan Angel wrote:
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> >> Hello, I am looking to take classes on sustainability, new green
> >> technoliges, etc., much like what is happening at the Gaviotas. Does
> >> anyone
> >> know of a reputable college in the U.S., or guide me to the best of
> >> the best
> >> on what's available right now?
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> >Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Classes
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> >I know as much as nothing aobut US schools, but my first assumption
> >about US schooling would be that $$$ is the primary interest in it.
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> >If it goes to alternative solutions i recommend earthships
> >
> >http://www.earthship.net/
> >
> >and to get you started about earthships i recommended greatly ( even
> >just for the sake of it ) to watch GarbageWarrior.
> >
> >
> >
> >Susan Angel wrote:
> >> Hello, I am looking to take classes on sustainability, new green
> >> technoliges, etc., much like what is happening at the Gaviotas. Does
> anyone
> >> know of a reputable college in the U.S., or guide me to the best of
> the best
> >> on what's available right now?
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