[Gaviotas] Visit?

Wed Jan 14 01:19:44 CST 2009

: ) Well, it's not an expensive trip. The U.S.A. is pretty close. Of course
you will need some local help getting there, but otherwise it's just a
question of priorities. If you really want it , you will certainly be able
to do it. Good luck. : )

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Zak Rogoff <zakkai at gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe you, Andres. Man, would I love to go to Gaviotas. I read
> Weisman's
> book in a class in college. I'm an engineering student and I speak Spanish,
> so I think I'd be perfect to go. I'm going to get there one of these days,
> but it might not be for a while.
>
> On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Andrés Felipe Celis Salazar <
> afcelis at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Zak:
> >
> > many thanks for your message. i´ll keep you informed if anything happens.
> > i´m a curious person, although "useless" for a project like this. i used
> to
> > be a lawyer, who doesn´t believe in the law anymore. still, i´m curious
> and
> > fast learner if i have the proper teacher.
> >
> > regarding colombia and the US department travel agency: colombia is not
> as
> > bad as they portrait it, although we have some very serious issues here,
> it
> > would be silly to deny them, specially in the internet era, where
> everyone
> > can check for himself. but is not as bad as they want to make it look.
> i´m
> > living proof of it.
> >
> > regards. "El presente es un caos, pero el futuro me pertenece" Nikola
> > Tesla. > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:03:54 -0500> From: zakkai at gmail.com>
> > To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Visit?> >
> > Andres-please keep us posted if you find a way to get in touch or get>
> > visiting rights. I've also been trying to get to visit for a long time.
> I>
> > actually had a wild fantasy to set up a program there through my college
> in>
> > Massachusetts (which Gaviotas probably would have declined), but my
> school>
> > said it was impossible because of the US State Department travel
> advisory>
> > warning on Colombia. I would go despite the risks.> > On Tue, Jan 13,
> 2009
> > at 2:50 PM, Andrés Felipe Celis Salazar <> afcelis at hotmail.com> wrote:>
> >
> > >> >> > Thanks> > "El presente es un caos, pero el futuro me pertenece"
> > Nikola Tesla. > Date:> > Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:39:00 -0600> To:
> > gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> From:> > billc_lists at greenbuilder.com>
> Subject:
> > Re: [Gaviotas] Visit?> > Andrés,> >> > As far as I can tell, no current
> > residents of Las > Gaviotas are on this> > list. There is (or was) a >
> > former resident on here for a while.> > You're> > in a better position
> than
> > most of us, > being in Bogotá. You can visit their> > office in > your
> > city.> > >From a post to this list on June 25:> > The fax> > number at
> > Centros las Gaviotas is 281 > 1803 - A. A. 18261 (you'll need to> > look
> up
> > > country code and I'm not sure what the AA part > is....maybe an> >
> > extension?)> > There is a string of numbers on Paolo's business > card
> > after> > the abbreviation "Conm:" these may > be three different phone
> > numbers or one> > code of > some sort, but this is what it looks like:> >
> > Conm: 282 5996 - 341> > 9967 - 286 2876> > > > See the archives of this
> list
> > for more contact >> > details. If I recall the address and other >
> details
> > were discussed within> > recent memory.> > > > At 7:19 PM +0000 1/13/09,
> > Andrés Felipe Celis Salazar> > wrote:> >> >i live in bogotá-colombia. but
> > still gaviotas is > >quite far> > from here, eventhough is in the same >
> > >country.> >> >i don´t understand> > this email system. i never > >get
> > replies from gaviotas, but from (very> > kind) > >people interested in
> it,
> > but not involved > >directly in it.> >>> > >still, there are some other
> > groups or places > >with proyects or visions> > kind of similar to >
> > >gaviotas.> >> > > -- > Bill Christensen> <> >
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