[Gaviotas] Visit?

[Zak Rogoff]

I believe you, Andres. Man, would I love to go to Gaviotas. I read Weisman's
book in a class in college. I'm an engineering student and I speak Spanish,
so I think I'd be perfect to go. I'm going to get there one of these days,
but it might not be for a while.

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Andrés Felipe Celis Salazar <
afcelis at hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Zak:
>
> many thanks for your message. i´ll keep you informed if anything happens.
> i´m a curious person, although "useless" for a project like this. i used to
> be a lawyer, who doesn´t believe in the law anymore. still, i´m curious and
> fast learner if i have the proper teacher.
>
> regarding colombia and the US department travel agency: colombia is not as
> bad as they portrait it, although we have some very serious issues here, it
> would be silly to deny them, specially in the internet era, where everyone
> can check for himself. but is not as bad as they want to make it look. i´m
> living proof of it.
>
> regards. "El presente es un caos, pero el futuro me pertenece" Nikola
> Tesla. > Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 00:03:54 -0500> From: zakkai at gmail.com>
> To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Visit?> >
> Andres-please keep us posted if you find a way to get in touch or get>
> visiting rights. I've also been trying to get to visit for a long time. I>
> actually had a wild fantasy to set up a program there through my college in>
> Massachusetts (which Gaviotas probably would have declined), but my school>
> said it was impossible because of the US State Department travel advisory>
> warning on Colombia. I would go despite the risks.> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009
> at 2:50 PM, Andrés Felipe Celis Salazar <> afcelis at hotmail.com> wrote:> >
> >> >> > Thanks> > "El presente es un caos, pero el futuro me pertenece"
> Nikola Tesla. > Date:> > Tue, 13 Jan 2009 13:39:00 -0600> To:
> gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> From:> > billc_lists at greenbuilder.com> Subject:
> Re: [Gaviotas] Visit?> > Andrés,> >> > As far as I can tell, no current
> residents of Las > Gaviotas are on this> > list. There is (or was) a >
> former resident on here for a while.> > You're> > in a better position than
> most of us, > being in Bogotá. You can visit their> > office in > your
> city.> > >From a post to this list on June 25:> > The fax> > number at
> Centros las Gaviotas is 281 > 1803 - A. A. 18261 (you'll need to> > look up
> > country code and I'm not sure what the AA part > is....maybe an> >
> extension?)> > There is a string of numbers on Paolo's business > card
> after> > the abbreviation "Conm:" these may > be three different phone
> numbers or one> > code of > some sort, but this is what it looks like:> >
> Conm: 282 5996 - 341> > 9967 - 286 2876> > > > See the archives of this list
> for more contact >> > details. If I recall the address and other > details
> were discussed within> > recent memory.> > > > At 7:19 PM +0000 1/13/09,
> Andrés Felipe Celis Salazar> > wrote:> >> >i live in bogotá-colombia. but
> still gaviotas is > >quite far> > from here, eventhough is in the same >
> >country.> >> >i don´t understand> > this email system. i never > >get
> replies from gaviotas, but from (very> > kind) > >people interested in it,
> but not involved > >directly in it.> >>> > >still, there are some other
> groups or places > >with proyects or visions> > kind of similar to >
> >gaviotas.> >> > > -- > Bill Christensen> <> >
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