[Gaviotas] Changing E-mail address

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--- On Thu, 11/20/08, Dave Johnson <pinefarm at uniontel.net> wrote:
From: Dave Johnson <pinefarm at uniontel.net>
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals
To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their technologies,  philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Date: Thursday, November 20, 2008, 5:40 PM

Did I miss it?  Dave Johnson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alvaro Gutierrez" <agutierrez at aidmanagers.org>
To: "Gaviotas' Discussion" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals

I am preparing a English translation for those that don't understand the
'fuzzy' Gaviotas documents, and the first document will be ready next
Monday. I will
send it using the discussion e-mail.

My opinion about the Gaviotas Pump compared to the rest of the world pumps,
is very simple.... As Gaviotas developed it using very common materials, it
is available at very low cost.  If you compare the cost / benefit in the
Gaviotas pump, you can see that the relation is better than the Paolo's
description.

You have to see the full system as one, not only the piston pump. The idea
of the Gaviotas pump is to use in a better way, the wind to pump water....
at a very low cost.... with a device that is very easy to install in remote
sites... without the requirement of technicians or/and experts.

 If the pump works as conventional or like one of the  expensive system
available in developed countries... is not the important idea in this
case. Technology available in  non developed countries is one of the nice
steps of Gaviotas.

Best Regards

Alvaro Gutierrez
Projects Manager & development consultant
Africa Development Managers Ltd
East Africa,  Kenya
www.aidmanagers.org

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From: "Dave Johnson" <pinefarm at uniontel.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:29 PM
To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their
technologies,  philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals

> Between the fuzzy pictues and my fuzzy Spanish, I can't be sure of
what
> the manual is describing but, it surely looks to me like what they have is
> a galvanized "sleeve" that they are screwing onto the end of a
PCV pipe.
> They are also insering a "tiro [piston?] rod inside the piping. I see
no
> indication that the pump is anything but a piston pump like those that are
> found all over the world. You pump the handle, the piston moves inside the
> cylinder and water is pumped. It is great that they introduced them where
> they were needed but, the design is conventional. Because the pump is at
> the bottom of the piping, it can pump from any depth. That is also
> conventional. Why Weisman made up his fantastic story is beyond me. Maybe
> someone used him and he wasn't technical enough to see thru it. I
think
> that Paulo got stuck with it and then stonewalls when it comes to actually
> letting anyone see the pump. Pauli says it is 4 times as efficient as any
> existing pump. That's bullshit. He should apologize. Dave Johnson
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Bren Eifler" <breneifler at gmail.com>
> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their
> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals
>
>
> Thanks for this! I've been looking for the Gaviotas windmill manual
> everywhere -- The community has been testing dozens of  windmill designs
> and
> apparently this is the most effective and efficient design they've
found.
>
> Bren
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Arlie Haig <ajhaig at sonic.net>
wrote:
>
>> That is so easy to find & deal with - Thanks for fending off your
robots
>> and doing that -
>> Arlie
>> www.ticoOrganico.com
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex hornstein"
<enjrolas at MIT.EDU>
>> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their
>> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:24 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals
>>
>>
>>  OK, let's try this out:
>>>
>>> I made an account on scribd, a public document sharing service.
>>>
>>> You can download documents easily just by going to:
>>> http://www.scribd.com/people/view/4525314-gaviotas
>>>
>>> to upload documents, go to scribd.com and log in with
>>> username:  gaviotas
>>> password:  seagulls
>>> there's an upload button at the top of the page.  Click on it,
then
>>> click the button that says 'Choose files'.  Select the
file(s) you
>>> want to upload(you can select multiple files by holding down
>>> "Control" while you click them, or the apple key on a
mac).  After
>>> the files upload, you are given the option to change their name
and
>>> enter a description.  Please take a second and give them a
>>> descriptive name--this will make it way way easier for other
people
>>> to search and use whatever files we put up there.  Click
'save' and
>>> then you're done!  Everyone in the world can see what you just
>>> uploaded!  Hooray!
>>>
>>>
>>> OK, let's see if this works.  Let me know if y'all have
any trouble.
>>> You can also send me files and I'll upload them for you, if
for any
>>> reason this is difficult for you (although please upload them
>>> yourself if you can.  I'm surrounded by some very jealous
robots that
>>> want all my attention)
>>>
>>> --me
>>>
>>>
>>> talvez, TALVEZ, puedo traducir estes direcciones a espanol, pero
>>> tengo miedo que sera terrible para alguien que pruebaria leerlos. 
Si
>>> alguien no los entiende, mandame un email o pide a la lista.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Sebastian Hesse wrote:
>>>
>>>  Thanks! :-)
>>>>
>>>> That´s what was needed!
>>>>
>>>> Sebastian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 12.11.2008 um 23:54 schrieb enjrolas at MIT.EDU:
>>>>
>>>>  Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have my own server (nublabs.org) and plenty of space and
>>>>> bandwidth.  I'm
>>>>> offering to host the manuals.  Would that help out?
>>>>>
>>>>> --alex
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Quoting Jeinny Solis S <jsolis at digilibro.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>  I have the same problem a s other, there's no link to
the
>>>>>> gaviotas conference list, and the initial link doesnt
work for me
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm attaching a screen image of what I see when I 
access the site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -------
>>>>>> Atentamente
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jeinny Solis S.
>>>>>> Directora de Producción
>>>>>> digiLibro: La solución completa en publicación
digital
>>>>>> Tels/Fax: +52 (55)5824-9628
>>>>>> E-mail: jsolis at digilibro.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Visite nuestra página Web:  www.digilibro.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ******************************
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave Dingman escribió:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know what else to say.  I have tried
it on 3 computers
>>>>>>> (1 MacBook, 1 Dell laptop, 1 Mac) with 3 different
browsers
>>>>>>> (Safari, Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox) and I
have not
>>>>>>> experienced any difficulties whatsoever.  So, the
problems are
>>>>>>> surprising to me.  I see that you have given up,
but if I may
>>>>>>> ask, did you click on the edit my conference list
link?  That
>>>>>>> may be a way to connect to it.  I'm sure that
Katherine can help
>>>>>>> shed more light on the matter as she is available
to.  Is anyone
>>>>>>> else still experiencing this problem?  Dave
Dingman     > From:
>>>>>>> ajhaig at sonic.net> To:
gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> Date: Wed, 12
>>>>>>> Nov 2008 08:49:49 -0800> Subject: Re:
[Gaviotas] Finding the
>>>>>>> Manuals> > Thanks for the detailed steps.
However, as many times
>>>>>>> as I have followed the > steps, the link to
Gaviotas just
>>>>>>> doesn't appear in either Firefox or IE >
browser. Here is all
>>>>>>> the text that shows in that area of my screen:>
My
>>>>>>> Conferences:   read all new discussion, or edit my
conference list
>>>>>>> . > Conference name:     # of Items with>
New discussion
>>>>>>> community discussion Demonstration 5> > I
will now give up.>
>>>>>>> Arlie> > ----- Original Message ----- >
From: "Dave Dingman"
>>>>>>> <dave_dingman at hotmail.com>> To:
<gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:42 AM>
Subject: [Gaviotas]
>>>>>>> Finding the Manuals> > >>>> I
will try to reiterate Katherine's
>>>>>>> directions for finding the location of >>
the manuals.  Step 1:
>>>>>>> If you do not already have a username and password
>> for the
>>>>>>> peakinsight.com site, you will need to email
Katherine Holt your
>>>>>>> >> name and email address.  It's free
and she won't spam you.
>>>>>>> Unless you ask >> her to, I suppose.  Step
2: Once you have a
>>>>>>> username and password, type >> this address
in your browser:
>>>>>>> http://peakinsight.gjhost.com  (please note
>> the absence of
>>>>>>> "www")Step 3: On the bottom left-hand
side of the page, >> below
>>>>>>> the big box labeled Community Forums, you will
find a
>>>>>>> "Conference >> List" with a link
to the Gaviotas discussion f
>>>>>>> orum.  Click the word >> Gaviotas (will be
highlighted in blue)
>>>>>>> Step 4: This is the main Gaviotas >> forum
page.  At the top of
>>>>>>> the page, there is a large box with the >>
Gaviotas logo.
>>>>>>> Inside this box, there is a link to the
"Resources" >> section.
>>>>>>> Click on the word Resources (will be highlighted
in blue).Step
>>>>>>> >> 5: This is the Gaviotas Resources page. 
You should see a>>
>>>>>>> white box near the top of the page with a listing
of the
>>>>>>> resources >> available.  Click on the one
titled, "Las Gaviotas
>>>>>>> Bomba de Camisa". >> Click on it.  This
is the manual as a
>>>>>>> powerpoint.  It should automatically >>
download and open onto
>>>>>>> your computer.  I hope this helps.  Dave
Dingman>>
>>>>>>>
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