[Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals

Tue Dec 9 14:55:18 CST 2008

Hello Gioconda, 

Do you know where I can get a good film documentary of Gaviotas? 

Cary 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gioconda Perez-Snyder" <gioconda_perez_snyder at hotmail.com> 
To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com 
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 11:38:04 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals 

Hello everybody. Alvaro Gutierrez is from Colombia working in Kenya in multiple projects in sustainable development. We are good friends for many years since high school. Good friends with Magnus Zethelius a pioneer in Gaviotas. Alan Weisman talk about him. By the way, Weisman visit Gaviotas in May for a new edition of the book A Village to reinvent the world. I bought the book, he add a few pages at the end about the visit. 

Good idea the translation of the Manuals in English, I hope Lugari like the idea 

gio 

> From: dave_dingman at hotmail.com 
> To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com 
> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 09:40:27 -0600 
> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals 
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> Alvaro, thanks for what you're doing with the documents. I appreciate and respect your sentiments for obtaining approval as I have had the same dilemma for a couple of years until I spoke with Paolo in Philly. You should do what you feel is right, of course. However, I would agree with Dave on this one. Anyway, thanks again for your efforts. I'm anxious to see the results. Feliz el viernes y salud! Dave Dingman > From: pinefarm at uniontel.net> To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:04:27 -0600> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals> > Actually, I doubt that you need approval. You are not releasing anything. > All you are doing is translating an already released document. Dave> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alvaro Gutierrez" <agutierrez at aidmanagers.org>> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their > technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>> Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2008 10:55 PM> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals> > > No David.... As it is a material from Gaviotas, I need to send it first to> obtain approval... sorry for the delay> > --------------------------------------------------> From: "Dave Johnson" <pinefarm at uniontel.net>> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 1:40 AM> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals> >> Did I miss it? Dave Johnson>> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Alvaro Gutierrez" <agutierrez at aidmanagers.org>>> To: "Gaviotas' Discussion" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 10:47 PM>> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals>>>>>> I am preparing a English translation for those that don't understand the>> 'fuzzy' Gaviotas documents, and the first document will be ready next>> Monday. I will>> send it using the discussion e-mail.>>>> My opinion about the Gaviotas Pump compared to the rest of the world >> pumps,>> is very simple.... As Gaviotas developed it using very common materials, >> it>> is available at very low cost. If you compare the cost / benefit in the>> Gaviotas pump, you can see that the relation is better than the Paolo's>> description.>>>> You have to see the full system as one, not only the piston pump. The idea>> of the Gaviotas pump is to use in a better way, the wind to pump water....>> at a very low cost.... with a device that is very easy to install in >> remote>> sites... without the requirement of technicians or/and experts.>>>> If the pump works as conventional or like one of the expensive system>> available in developed countries... is not the important idea in this>> case. Technology available in non developed countries is one of the nice>> steps of Gaviotas.>>>> Best Regards>>>> Alvaro Gutierrez>> Projects Manager & development consultant>> Africa Development Managers Ltd>> East Africa, Kenya>> www.aidmanagers.org>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------->> From: "Dave Johnson" <pinefarm at uniontel.net>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 8:29 PM>> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their>> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals>>>>> Between the fuzzy pictues and my fuzzy Spanish, I can't be sure of what>>> the manual is describing but, it surely looks to me like what they have >>> is>>> a galvanized "sleeve" that they are screwing onto the end of a PCV pipe.>>> They are also insering a "tiro [piston?] rod inside the piping. I see no>>> indication that the pump is anything but a piston pump like those that >>> are>>> found all over the world. You pump the handle, the piston moves inside >>> the>>> cylinder and water is pumped. It is great that they introduced them where>>> they were needed but, the design is conventional. Because the pump is at>>> the bottom of the piping, it can pump from any depth. That is also>>> conventional. Why Weisman made up his fantastic story is beyond me. Maybe>>> someone used him and he wasn't te chnical enough to see thru it. I think>>> that Paulo got stuck with it and then stonewalls when it comes to >>> actually>>> letting anyone see the pump. Pauli says it is 4 times as efficient as any>>> existing pump. That's bullshit. He should apologize. Dave Johnson>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Bren Eifler" <breneifler at gmail.com>>>> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their>>> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:57 AM>>> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this! I've been looking for the Gaviotas windmill manual>>> everywhere -- The community has been testing dozens of windmill designs>>> and>>> apparently this is the most effective and efficient design they've found.>>>>>> Bren>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Arlie Haig <ajhaig at sonic.net> wrote:>>>>>>> That is so easy to find & deal with - Thanks for fending off your robots>>>> and doing that ->>>> Arlie>>>> www.ticoOrganico.com>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex hornstein" <enjrolas at MIT.EDU>>>>> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their>>>> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:24 PM>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, let's try this out:>>>>>>>>>> I made an account on scribd, a public document sharing service.>>>>>>>>>> You can download documents easily just by going to:>>>>> http://www.scribd.com/people/view/4525314-gaviotas>>>>>>>>>> to upload documents, go to scribd.com and log in with>>>>> username: gaviotas>>>>> password: seagulls>>>>> there's an upload button at the top of the page. Click on it, then>>>>> click the button that says 'Choose files'. Select the file(s) you>>>>> want to upload(you can select multiple files by holding down>>>>> "Control" while you click them, or the apple key on a mac). After>>>>> the files upload, you are given the option to change their name and>>>>> enter a description. Please take a second and give them a>>>>> descriptive name--this will make it way way easier for other people>>>>> to search and use whatever files we put up there. Click 'save' and>>>>> then you're done! Everyone in the world can see what you just>>>>> uploaded! Hooray!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, let's see if this works. Let me know if y'all have any trouble.>>>>> You can also send me files and I'll upload them for you, if for any>>>>> reason this is difficult for you (although please upload them>>>>> yourself if you can. I'm surrounded by some very jealous robots that>>>>> want all my attention)>>>>>>>>>> --me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> talvez, TALVEZ, puedo traducir estes direcciones a espanol, pero>>>>> tengo miedo que sera terrible para alguien que pruebaria leerlos. Si>>>>> alguien no los entiende, mandame un email o pide a la lista.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Sebastian Hesse wrote:>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! :-)>>>>>>>>>>>> That´s what was needed!>>>>>>>>>>>> Sebastian>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 12.11.2008 um 23:54 schrieb enjrolas at MIT.EDU:>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello,>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have my own server (nublabs.org) and plenty of space and>>>>>>> bandwidth. I'm>>>>>>> offering to host the manuals. Would that help out?>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --alex>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quoting Jeinny Solis S <jsolis at digilibro.com>:>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have the same problem a s other, there's no link to the>>>>>>>> gaviotas conference list, and the initial link doesnt work for me>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm attaching a screen image of what I see when I access the site>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------->>>>>>>> Atentamente>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jeinny Solis S.>>>>>>>> Directora de Producción>>>>>>>> digiLibro: La solución completa en publicación digital>>>>>>>> Tels/Fax: +52 (55)5824-9628>>>>>>>> E-mail: jsolis at digilibro.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visite nuestra página Web: www.digilibro.com>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ******************************>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave Dingman escribió:>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't know what else to say. I have tried it on 3 computers>>>>>>>>> (1 MacBook, 1 Dell laptop, 1 Mac) with 3 different browsers>>>>>>>>> (Safari, Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox) and I have not>>>>>>>>> experienced any difficulties whatsoever. So, the problems are>>>>>>>>> surprising to me. I see that you have given up, but if I may>>>>>>>>> ask, did you click on the edit my conference list link? That>>>>>>>>> may be a way to connect to it. I'm sure that Katherine can help>>>>>>>>> shed more light on the matter as she is available to. Is anyone>>>>>>>>> else still experiencing this problem? Dave Dingman > From:>>>>>>>>> ajhaig at sonic.net> To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> Date: Wed, 12>>>>>>>>> Nov 2008 08:49:49 -0800> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the>>>>>>>>> Manuals>> Thanks for the detailed steps. However, as many times>>>>>>>>> as I have followed the> steps, the link to Gaviotas just>>>>>>>>> doesn't appear in either Firefox or IE> browser. Here is all>>>>>>>>> the text that shows in that area of my screen:> My>>>>>>>>> Conferences: read all new discussion, or edit my conference list>>>>>>>>> .> Conference name: # of Items with> New discussion>>>>>>>>> community discussion Demonstration 5>> I will now give up.>>>>>>>>>> Arlie>> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Dave Dingman">>>>>>>>> <dave_dingman at hotmail.com>> To: <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:42 AM> Subject: [Gaviotas]>>>>>>>>> Finding the Manuals>>>>>> I will try to reiterate Katherine's>>>>>>>>> directions for finding the location of>> the manuals. Step 1:>>>>>>>>> If you do not already have a username and password>> for the>>>>>>>>> peakinsight.com site, you will need to email Katherine Holt your>>>>>>>>>>> name and email address. It's free and she won't spam you.>>>>>>>>> Unless you ask>> her to, I suppose. Step 2: Once you have a>>>>>>>>> username and password, type>> this address in your browser:>>>>>>>>> http://peakinsight.gjhost.com (please note>> the absence of>>>>>>>>> "www")Step 3: On the bottom left-hand side of the page,>> below>>>>>>>>> the big box labeled Community Forums, you will find a>>>>>>>>> "Conference>> List" with a link to the Gaviotas discussion f>>>>>>>>> orum. Click the word>> Gaviotas (will be highlighted in blue)>>>>>>>>> Step 4: This is the main Gaviotas>> forum page. At the top of>>>>>>>>> the page, there is a large box with the>> Gaviotas logo.>>>>>>>>> Inside this box, there is a link to the "Resources">> section.>>>>>>>>> Click on the word Resources (will be highlighted in blue).Step>>>>>>>>>>> 5: This is the Gaviotas Resources page. You should see a>>>>>>>>>>> white box near the top of the page with a listing of the>>>>>>>>> resources>> available. Click on the one titled, "Las Gaviotas>>>>>>>>> Bomba de Camisa".>> Click on it. This is the manual as a>>>>>>>>> powerpoint. It should automatically>> download and open onto>>>>>>>>> your computer. I hope this helps. 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