[Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals

Thu Nov 13 11:29:46 CST 2008

Between the fuzzy pictues and my fuzzy Spanish, I can't be sure of what the 
manual is describing but, it surely looks to me like what they have is a 
galvanized "sleeve" that they are screwing onto the end of a PCV pipe. They 
are also insering a "tiro [piston?] rod inside the piping. I see no 
indication that the pump is anything but a piston pump like those that are 
found all over the world. You pump the handle, the piston moves inside the 
cylinder and water is pumped. It is great that they introduced them where 
they were needed but, the design is conventional. Because the pump is at the 
bottom of the piping, it can pump from any depth. That is also conventional. 
Why Weisman made up his fantastic story is beyond me. Maybe someone used him 
and he wasn't technical enough to see thru it. I think that Paulo got stuck 
with it and then stonewalls when it comes to actually letting anyone see the 
pump. Pauli says it is 4 times as efficient as any existing pump. That's 
bullshit. He should apologize. Dave Johnson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bren Eifler" <breneifler at gmail.com>
To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their 
technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals

Thanks for this! I've been looking for the Gaviotas windmill manual
everywhere -- The community has been testing dozens of  windmill designs and
apparently this is the most effective and efficient design they've found.

Bren

On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Arlie Haig <ajhaig at sonic.net> wrote:

> That is so easy to find & deal with - Thanks for fending off your robots
> and doing that -
> Arlie
> www.ticoOrganico.com
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "alex hornstein" <enjrolas at MIT.EDU>
> To: "Discussion relating to Gaviotas village in Colombia, their
> technologies, philosophy, etc" <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:24 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the Manuals
>
>
>  OK, let's try this out:
>>
>> I made an account on scribd, a public document sharing service.
>>
>> You can download documents easily just by going to:
>> http://www.scribd.com/people/view/4525314-gaviotas
>>
>> to upload documents, go to scribd.com and log in with
>> username:  gaviotas
>> password:  seagulls
>> there's an upload button at the top of the page.  Click on it, then
>> click the button that says 'Choose files'.  Select the file(s) you
>> want to upload(you can select multiple files by holding down
>> "Control" while you click them, or the apple key on a mac).  After
>> the files upload, you are given the option to change their name and
>> enter a description.  Please take a second and give them a
>> descriptive name--this will make it way way easier for other people
>> to search and use whatever files we put up there.  Click 'save' and
>> then you're done!  Everyone in the world can see what you just
>> uploaded!  Hooray!
>>
>>
>> OK, let's see if this works.  Let me know if y'all have any trouble.
>> You can also send me files and I'll upload them for you, if for any
>> reason this is difficult for you (although please upload them
>> yourself if you can.  I'm surrounded by some very jealous robots that
>> want all my attention)
>>
>> --me
>>
>>
>> talvez, TALVEZ, puedo traducir estes direcciones a espanol, pero
>> tengo miedo que sera terrible para alguien que pruebaria leerlos.  Si
>> alguien no los entiende, mandame un email o pide a la lista.
>>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2008, at 6:20 PM, Sebastian Hesse wrote:
>>
>>  Thanks! :-)
>>>
>>> That´s what was needed!
>>>
>>> Sebastian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 12.11.2008 um 23:54 schrieb enjrolas at MIT.EDU:
>>>
>>>  Hello,
>>>>
>>>> I have my own server (nublabs.org) and plenty of space and
>>>> bandwidth.  I'm
>>>> offering to host the manuals.  Would that help out?
>>>>
>>>> --alex
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quoting Jeinny Solis S <jsolis at digilibro.com>:
>>>>
>>>>  I have the same problem a s other, there's no link to the
>>>>> gaviotas conference list, and the initial link doesnt work for me
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm attaching a screen image of what I see when I  access the site
>>>>>
>>>>> -------
>>>>> Atentamente
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Jeinny Solis S.
>>>>> Directora de Producción
>>>>> digiLibro: La solución completa en publicación digital
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>>>>> E-mail: jsolis at digilibro.com
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave Dingman escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know what else to say.  I have tried it on 3 computers
>>>>>> (1 MacBook, 1 Dell laptop, 1 Mac) with 3 different browsers
>>>>>> (Safari, Internet Explorer, Mozilla Firefox) and I have not
>>>>>> experienced any difficulties whatsoever.  So, the problems are
>>>>>> surprising to me.  I see that you have given up, but if I may
>>>>>> ask, did you click on the edit my conference list link?  That
>>>>>> may be a way to connect to it.  I'm sure that Katherine can help
>>>>>> shed more light on the matter as she is available to.  Is anyone
>>>>>> else still experiencing this problem?  Dave Dingman     > From:
>>>>>> ajhaig at sonic.net> To: gaviotas at greenbuilder.com> Date: Wed, 12
>>>>>> Nov 2008 08:49:49 -0800> Subject: Re: [Gaviotas] Finding the
>>>>>> Manuals> > Thanks for the detailed steps. However, as many times
>>>>>> as I have followed the > steps, the link to Gaviotas just
>>>>>> doesn't appear in either Firefox or IE > browser. Here is all
>>>>>> the text that shows in that area of my screen:> My
>>>>>> Conferences:   read all new discussion, or edit my conference list
>>>>>> . > Conference name:     # of Items with> New discussion
>>>>>> community discussion Demonstration 5> > I will now give up.>
>>>>>> Arlie> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dave Dingman"
>>>>>> <dave_dingman at hotmail.com>> To: <gaviotas at greenbuilder.com>>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 5:42 AM> Subject: [Gaviotas]
>>>>>> Finding the Manuals> > >>>> I will try to reiterate Katherine's
>>>>>> directions for finding the location of >> the manuals.  Step 1:
>>>>>> If you do not already have a username and password >> for the
>>>>>> peakinsight.com site, you will need to email Katherine Holt your
>>>>>> >> name and email address.  It's free and she won't spam you.
>>>>>> Unless you ask >> her to, I suppose.  Step 2: Once you have a
>>>>>> username and password, type >> this address in your browser:
>>>>>> http://peakinsight.gjhost.com  (please note >> the absence of
>>>>>> "www")Step 3: On the bottom left-hand side of the page, >> below
>>>>>> the big box labeled Community Forums, you will find a
>>>>>> "Conference >> List" with a link to the Gaviotas discussion f
>>>>>> orum.  Click the word >> Gaviotas (will be highlighted in blue)
>>>>>> Step 4: This is the main Gaviotas >> forum page.  At the top of
>>>>>> the page, there is a large box with the >> Gaviotas logo.
>>>>>> Inside this box, there is a link to the "Resources" >> section.
>>>>>> Click on the word Resources (will be highlighted in blue).Step
>>>>>> >> 5: This is the Gaviotas Resources page.  You should see a>>
>>>>>> white box near the top of the page with a listing of the
>>>>>> resources >> available.  Click on the one titled, "Las Gaviotas
>>>>>> Bomba de Camisa". >> Click on it.  This is the manual as a
>>>>>> powerpoint.  It should automatically >> download and open onto
>>>>>> your computer.  I hope this helps.  Dave Dingman>>
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